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RagTop

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I recorded an episode of Classic Car Rescue that just said it was about the Mustang. I figured I might learn something. The show is on Velocity TV. It features a Canadian vintage car dealer named Mario Pacione and a Brit named Bernie Fineman (an old British name). Anyway, the shows usually come down to Mario taking a flyer on a heap and Bernie going ballistic in a Cockney accent. All very funny. They look at a pile of rust 68 coupe that the owner is asking $5K for. They offer $2K, which was a gross mistake, and the guy hangs tough at $5K. No deal. So Mario goes out on his own and finds a 69 convertible in kit form. The car is in boxes scattered all over the owner's garage and is almost as big a hunk of oxide as the 67 they looked at earlier. It's just harder to tell since the car is in a million pieces. The owner is asking $6K for the vert and Mario, the cunning professional, talks him down to $5K. Did I mention that there is a ball of rust posing as a 351W on a separate skid? He drags this heap to the shop and Bernie goes nuts. The car's rocker rails, which are the source of most of a Mustang convertible's physical integrity, are so rotten he can pass his hand into them without turning it sideways. Good thing the car was on a trailer or it would have probably collapsed on it's wheels. The ball of rust 351W, not the original engine, turns out to be frozen solid. The tranny is trash too. No worries. They go back to the guy with the 68 coupe and buy the 302 and C4 from that car from him. These guys have a crew that welds in patches on almost every part of the body pan, sub frames, rocker rails, lower quarter panels, etc. using virgin sheet metal. No repops for these brave souls. Also, no jigs to keep the chassis aligned. They decide to test fit the windshield after all the welding on the theory that, if it fits the whole car must be straight. The windshield fits alright, but Mario drops the thing taking it off the car. No worries. They buzz over to a wrecker and take the windshield from a 69 coupe. Nobody mentions that the 69 Mustangs had three different windshields and that the coupe wouldn't fit a convertible or a fastback. Miraculously their windshield does fit. Hmmm. They take the reassembled vert with the standard interior and the deluxe rim blow steering wheel and paint it "an authentic Mustang color", Grabber Blue, a 1970 color. The sequence is hilarious when the car emerges from the spray booth with all the chrome and stainless trim on it, like Athena emerging from the womb in full armor. Who knows, maybe they always paint them that way in Canada. They slap a new standard black interior kit in the car, a new roof, and stick some American Mags on it and call for the appraiser to give them a value for the beast. Mario said the "restored" car would be worth $35K at the beginning of the show. The appraiser gives the car a thorough going over and notes that the passenger door sticks out about a half inch from the rear quarter when closed and that the bonnet (hood to us Yanks) bows in the middle a similar half inch above the fender on the same side. Maybe it was the Boss 302 stripe kit or the fastback spoiler they mounted on the trunk lid, but the appraiser concludes that the 69 vert is now worth a cool $29K. Far be it from me to denigrate a 69 convertible, but I would really like to see them try to sell that thing for that much. My 69 vert is a numbers matching car painted the actual color it came out of the factory with and I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't be able to find a buyer (pronounced sucker) to buy it for $29K in the present market. I can't tell you how disappointed I was in that show. Now I can never watch it again because I know how fast and loose they play with the facts.
 
I saw the show also. First and last time that I watch it, though I should have known better to begin with (more on that in a minute). Regarding the windshield, dropped it? B.S. He threw it on the ground, much like the "accident" on Desert Car Kings with the 'Cuda rear window...staged! I swear they pulled that window out of a '68(!) coupe. It also appeared to be untinted, yet the one that went in looked brand new and WAS tinted...staged!

I should have known better because I know what a hack Bernie is. He was also on another show out of England where he worked with an Indian guy that "designed" cars. Ha! Cobbled together pieces of garbage that I wouldn't be seen standing near, let alone claim to have built!

Another new show is the Car Prospector. I've seen it once, also first and last time. The guy is some "expert" who goes on and on in the episode I saw about how clean and great the rally rims are on a '67 442. He also makes some comment about how desirable they are, or some such nonsense. Yeah right, they're weren't available until '68! It seems that while the networks are on a good track to provide a lot of car related shows, they choose a line up of losers! What a waste!
 
"like Athena emerging from the womb in full armor" Well, THAT little comment just made my whole night. I've found I no use for any automotive based"reality" based show. Every one I've seen has any number of staged and stupid things pop up until I can't stand watching anymore. I don't even bother to try any new ones these days. "Cops" is about the only reality show I care to watch.
 
I loved the Mustang build on American Hot Rod with Coddington. They staged pulling it out of the barn where it was parked since the 70's,but it had a 80's GT logo in the grill.Everything blasted apart with a socket set,No seized or rusted bolts. Then he blows up a supposed 289 K-Code motor. I just laugh at them anymore.I used to like Lou Santiago on Muscle Car.At least he would show his goof up. The Tempest when he was bending the metal for the rear window and he showed he had to bend a few pieces to get it right was great. Haven't watched that show since he left.
 
"GypsyR" said:
"like Athena emerging from the womb in full armor" Well, THAT little comment just made my whole night.
I over played it, huh? :hmm I wondered about using that line but thought "what the hell". Shows you what a 40 year old California public education could do to your mind. I'm sure the average graduate student these days would have no idea what I was talking about. God only knows what they would think a reference to Pandora's box would be. :cens
 
"RagTop" said:
They decide to test fit the windshield after all the welding on the theory that, if it fits the whole car must be straight. The windshield fits alright, but Mario drops the thing taking it off the car. No worries. They buzz over to a wrecker and take the windshield from a 69 coupe. Nobody mentions that the 69 Mustangs had three different windshields and that the coupe wouldn't fit a convertible or a fastback. Miraculously their windshield does fit. Hmmm.

I've seen the show. It wasn't good...... there are two different windshields on the '69 Mustang as far as physical fit. Coupe and Convertible are the same part number and the fastback (sportroof) is a different part number.
 
I watched for about 10 minutes. I can't stand faked outrage and yelling. Changed the channel. Also watched that expert cowboy who knows all and nothing at the same time.

I wish that Hemmings would put on a 'car' show. Now they I would trust to do their homework and tell the truth.
 
"KBMWRS" said:
I watched for about 10 minutes. I can't stand faked outrage and yelling. Changed the channel. Also watched that expert cowboy who knows all and nothing at the same time.

I wish that Hemmings would put on a 'car' show. Now they I would trust to do their homework and tell the truth.

To those that think they know what we want to watch, a show done by Hemmings would be boring and draw no viewers. In today's programming you must have stupid, screaming, ugly idiots to be a hit..... What scares me is there are thousands of these idiots out there. Even the adds are stupid now.
 
"AzPete" said:
To those that think they know what we want to watch, a show done by Hemmings would be boring and draw no viewers. In today's programming you must have stupid, screaming, ugly idiots to be a hit..... What scares me is there are thousands of these idiots out there. Even the adds are stupid now.

When Graveyard Cars first came out I thought it was so staged and faked. Waaaaay too much drama and too little cars...even if they are Mopars. I started to do a little 'net search on the shop owner. What I found was kinda surprising. The Mopar forum guys REALLY hated the show, much for the same reason. Lo and behold, one of the guys knew the owner and said he was actually a really good guy. He then got the owner to start posting. I found some of his posts and read through them. He basically stated he is all about the cars and wanted to do an in depth restoration show which featured details and accuracy. He stated that he hired the production crew out of pocket to film a pilot in order to pitch it to the networks. None would air it, stating it was too boring and had no drama. He then re-did it with the drama and the producers ate it up...hence the show. He went on to apologize to everyone, hoped they would understand and also stated he was working out as much drama and replacing it with actual car stuff as he could get away with. I've actually seen this occurring over the second season. If it'll stay on much longer is anyone's guess. God forbid car guys like it without drama! Bottom line, we ain't gonna get some really good shows WITHOUT the stupidity and drama!

p.s. I do enjoy the Sat. morning Powerblock, though I skip the 4WD show since Jessie Combs left.
 
I agree that Lou had some serious skills and if mud wrestling was on during powerblock and it pitted Jessie against the gal that was on overhauling, I'd watched that ALL THE TIME :yah :thum :yah
 
"copasspupil" said:
I agree that Lou had some serious skills and if mud wrestling was on during powerblock and it pitted Jessie against the gal that was on overhauling, I'd watched that ALL THE TIME :yah :thum :yah

LOL! :thum :thum
 
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